[Ceph-community] List's welcome email message

Sage Weil sage at newdream.net
Wed Apr 24 06:48:05 PDT 2019

On Wed, 24 Apr 2019, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> On 4/20/19 9:54 AM, Joao Eduardo Luis wrote:
> > Given the number of emails we get sent to the list that actually belong
> > on ceph-users or ceph-devel, could we include a disclaimer about those
> > in the welcoming email?
> > 
> > Something like
> > 
> >   > Please be aware that this list is only for community organizational
> > matters and questions regarding your planned, existing, or problematic
> > deployments will not be answered.
> >   > For those questions, we recommend reaching out to
> > ceph-users at lists.ceph.com and/or ceph-devel at vger.kernel.org where you'll
> > find those that can help you.
> > 
> > This could be tweaked for sure. Maybe describe better what the list is
> > all about, and/or give a few examples of things that should go into
> > ceph-users or ceph-devel.
> Agreed, that would be helpful. I also suggested to update the
> information on https://ceph.com/irc/#mailing-lists - a while ago.
> Maybe it's worth revisiting this?
> Here are my suggestions that I sent to Mike and Sage back then - maybe
> we could still implement them. Feedback is welcome:
> * If possible, I would move the ceph-users row on the top of the table,
>   followed by ceph-devel, ceph-community, ceph-announce (and then the
>   rest).
> * The "Description" column of the table below this text is currently not
>   used, I suggest to remove it (as the "list info" links should point to
>   that information).
> There are already some paragraphs above the table that actually try to
> clarify the purpose of the most popular lists. I'd like to propose a
> slight re-arrangement/rewording of this part:

Agree with all of this.

Separately, though, I wonder if we should consider dropping the 
ceph-community@ list entirely.  It gets very little traffic and most of 
what *is* on-topic is about ceph events (ceph days and meetups).  Perhaps 
we should just replace it with events at ceph.io?


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